January 26, 2008...7:57 pm

Holy Shit! Prepare Thyselves for Mass Hysteria!! RADAR Calls on Experts!

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Goddamn. Victory is sweet.
  • Lois Gibson also confirmed the identity of the famous Kissing Sailor photograph in Time. She also helped identify “Baby Grace.” She was shown the body of a decomposed child found in the river and based on the baby’s facial structure drew a picture of what she would look like. The picture was so right on on that her grandmother in another state identified the baby as her granddaughter. DNA tests confirmed. She’s worked for the FBI and has been featured on Oprah, Larry King, CNN, Dateline, etc. She believes in exposing the truth, whether it’s about a trivial 2 woman fluff piece or a terrible crime.
  • Lois Gibson analyzed all the original photos from Splash News and the ones of CL from Pacific Coast News and conclusively stated that those are undoubtedly two women.
  • Radar credited MFOYA for the photos they used on their site because those photos (including the ones with lines) were pulled from THIS site.
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The woman on the beach is not, was not, and will never be Caroline Lyders. Caroline Lyders is a fake and a fraud. She pretended to be Taylor Hicks’ fake girlfriend. This was nothing but a ruse. A fake romance. The sham that was a stupid idea all around - too stupid to even believe at first. But it never changed the fact that it was the truth. It is unfortunate that Taylor Hicks’ so-called fans are so judgmental that he felt he must charade around with a careerist doppelganger to avoid losing them.
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    Case Closed.

    147 Comments

    • Single_Bullet_Theory
      January 28, 2008 at 12:56 pm

      Somebody’s havin’ CROW for din-din this evening…

    • OMG. MFOYA, I’m not worthy.

      That’s awesome.

    • OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Slam Dunk! Jeannie is losing her mind! Claiming that the forensic expert has been analyzing photos that have been altered by MFOYA!!! Apparently the expert didn’t notice because MFOYA’s altering skills are so good an expert can’t tell. Jeannie you are an ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!

      LOL!!!!!!!!! Case closed. Nice work Radar & MFOYA!!!!!

    • Checkmate!

    • Now MFOYA must be paying someone at RADAR! The most successful forensic artist in the WORLD is on MFOYA’s payroll and so is Radar. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA.

      Taylor has pulled a fast one on these people. Should i feel bad for them?

    • I’m glad I trusted my instincts and that I’m not crazy. They were trying to fool people and didn’t get away with it. I’m so glad they brought in a forensic expert.

    • Congratulations MFOYA!! It’s been a long time coming and sometimes even I doubted you could do it, but checkmate is right!! You knew all along that if some expert examined the photos (and they have access to the splash originals), then it would show that there were two different women. Radar is putting their reputation in the mainstream media by saying this, so it’s definitely legitimate.

      All I can say is I’m happy it’s finally proved!! Case closed!!

    • Single_Bullet_Theory
      January 28, 2008 at 2:31 pm

      FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY…

      Jeannie - IT’S PHOTOS, NOT PHOTO’S!

      “Photo’s” implies that the photo possesses something.

      And BTW - I’m sure you frothed at the mouth to view these “irresponsible, on-line ’so called’ magazines” whenever there was a hot and juicy story about TH that leaned YOUR way. Give it up, woman…

    • Well, thankyajesus!!!!!!

      “and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” John8:32

    • MFOYA says: Oh no you didn’t. HA!

      That is fucking hilarious. I guess the expert is as dumb as everyone else on this website. LMMFAO. Peace.

    • Every publication opens themselves up to lawsuit if they are wrong. They won’t print anything conclusive unless they are 1000000% sure or they want to get sued. There isn’t a better expert than Lois Gibson, if she was wrong she would be done with. The woman is in the Guiness World Book of Records for crying out loud! This is so amazing!!

    • Balliker, alltheanswers, Ted, Tedneck and any other name you might go by, you’re an embarrassment.

    • Can I get a dollar for every time one of the loser CL fan clubbers posts “Who cares?” or its cousin “I don’t give a shit!” anywhere on the internet in the next 24 hrs? Please?

    • “Lois Gibson of the Houston Police Department is one of only 19 full-time police sketch artists in the country. Her facial sketches and analytical work have helped law enforcement agents bring in more than 1,062 criminals, a number that has earned her a place in the Guinness Book of World Records as “The World’s Most Successful Forensic Artist.” We showed her close-ups of the beach girl and Lyders, and asked if she thought they were one and the same. Her unbiased professional opinion? Beach girl and Lyders are without a doubt different people.”

      There’s your slam-dunk statement!! It can’t get better than that!!

      Radar HAD to get one of the best experts in the country to do this comparison. And she came through with the proof.

    • Ted, I like you always have, but dude, come one..the sham is up….it’s okay to just say “okay, it’s out now..whew, I can breathe a sigh of relief.”

      It’s okay…..*HUGS*

    • Single_Bullet_Theory
      January 28, 2008 at 2:56 pm

      Junebug,

      The back-pedaling has already started…

      I’ll take a George Washington for each “IT DOESN’T MATTER”. I think we’ll be seeing a plethora of those as well…

    • MOFA and Radar both equal trash!

    • Ted…aka balliker; Are you serious? Do you really think RADAR would waste their time on an expert? I can’t believe that you still think mfoya is a hateful human being with too much time on their hands….perhaps it’s the SP’ers who have too much time: to much time trying to keep golden boy’s image afloat, when it’s sinking, and fast! Give me a break! What a moron!

    • Ted/Ballicker is still playing the role of infamous “Baghdad Bob”, the Iraqi Defence Minister on the day Baghdad was invaded by coalition troops. Remember “They’re not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion … they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”

    • Man, MFOYA, there is not a word with enough strength behind it to describe your type of tenacity.

      To Junebug,
      “Can I get a dollar for every time one of the loser CL fan clubbers posts “Who cares?” or its cousin “I don’t give a shit!” anywhere on the internet in the next 24 hrs? Please?”
      That should grant you a nice cash stash June.

    • Wow, it’s nice to feel some vindication, but I still am mystified by the “why” of all of this and I still want to know where a devoted Taylor fan is supposed to go from here. To Radar Magazine this all must be pretty dammed interesting and important to someone if this what, your third article about all of this. I’m just saying…

    • YOU ROCK MFOYA!

      FINALLY IT’S OVER

      CHECKMATE BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEE!

    • Now, let the chicken dancing begin!

      Cluck the Fanatics. LOL

    • Taylor and his hillbilly crack team were dumb enough to come up with this plan in the first place. I wouldn’t expect them to be smart enough to shut up. Of course Ted is going to come here and of course Wes will deny. now TMS is claiming Radar must be lying about Lois Gibson and making it up. OK hmm now they are just using the name of the expert. It’s a free world they can write whatever they want ya know? Just when i thought these people couldn’t be any stupider. but i don’t know i think fattys at TMS are trying to “protect” taylor even though they know the truth. hoping that will get them in with him. because they can’t be THAT stupid. no one can.

    • another thing too…this is nothing new to any of us. i know everyone that posts here knew that wasn’t her. its nice to have an expert confirm but i knew it anyway. my eyes don’t lie.Taylor hicks does!

    • hickschicks2010
      January 28, 2008 at 4:53 pm

      Oh my God.

      Just…oh my God.

    • I’m with you Hustler.

      “in the pool halls, the hustlers and the losers” “used to watch her do her stuff”

      If Taylor has the integrity that everyone claims he has, he will make a statement, but don’t count on it. Shamming is in his blood I think, look how he hoodwinked the SP on AI.

      Taylor, end this now! Please!

    • OMFG…….

      hickschicks2010 said it all…..

    • I think it’s sad that Taylor felt he had to cover up a fling on the beach with a fake girlfriend that was more appropriate. The SP doesn’t want to see this or know this. IMO they are actually at fault for Taylor feeling he had to do this in the first place. Fuck all of them Taylor. Just be REAL.

    • “Fuck all of them Taylor. Just be REAL.”

      AMEN!!!!

    • Voice of Reason
      January 28, 2008 at 6:21 pm

      Wow! How much fun was it just pulling the site up today?!

      I am so glad they put a expert on this. But honestly, it didn’t take an expert if you just studied the photos with any honesty.

      Yes, they look similar, but there are big difference anyone ought to be able to distinguish.

      I’m so glad that MFOYA has been vindicated.

    • hickschicks2010
      January 28, 2008 at 6:22 pm

      I’m with lurk.

      Hey Taylor, you know why your fans liked you in the first place? Because you were REAL. You stuck out in the crowd from all the plastic little spastics and “rockstars” of the music world. You had a genuineness about you that made you so special that all these people wanted to buy your music and come to your concerts. But when you lost that truth about you is when you lost everything.

      Alright, I’m off my soap box. And now back to the regularly scheduled program. (=

    • Check and mate mfoya. Well done.

      Now if we only knew WHY.

    • “Fuck all of them Taylor. Just be REAL.”

      Can I get an amen?!

    • Voice of Reason
      January 28, 2008 at 6:23 pm

      “Taylor and his hillbilly crack team”

      Hustler - I love Taylor - and I’m Southern myself - but that was funny!

    • Of course Ted is going to come here and of course Wes will deny. now TMS is claiming Radar must be lying about Lois Gibson and making it up.

      If Radar was lying about Gibson, she’d be on their ass in no time. (Kinda like if MFOYA was lying about CL, she’d have shut us down eons ago.) As to their argument that Gibson would have more important things to do with her time, are they for real? Do they think she spends 24-7 searching for dead bodies? Experts like these do things that are a diversion from the depressing shit they have to deal with most of the time. And she’s getting paid, so no mystery why she took the assignment.

      But hey, why should the women at TMS think for themselves when they can just take the word of Wes? I mean, men NEVER lie to women for their own purposes, right? And why bother considering that the forensic specialist, who is an objective disinterested party, would have no reason to lie, whereas Tay’s buddies certainly might?

    • Or maybe Tay’s buddies (or just the one) are being lied to also.

    • Junebug, that’s just too much logic for those idiots to deal with. If Taylor did make a statement it would HAVE to be videotaped and you would have to be able to clearly see his mouth or they would never believe it was his statement. The sad truth, there would still be some that would argue it was MFOYA forcing him to do it.

    • Um….like Wes would even say “hey ladies, yea, he fucked up…different women….sorry.”

      Of course he’s gonna back up Taylor and say CL is the beach woman.

    • Here’s more on Lois Gibson written on The Early Show site. She’s quite an amazing artist with an almost preternatural gift.

      I’d be leaning on taking Ms. Gibson’s word on her observations from the photos seriously. Considering this lady’s credentials, I doubt she’d botch up her reputation with random statements.

      Too, anyone doubting these statements were truly coming from Ms. Gibson, RADAR nor anyone else for that matter, couldn’t attribute these comments as Ms. Gibson’s if they were not.

      Regarding the photos, being credited by RADAR as coming from MFOYA, these same photos were professionally examined already and found to not have any photoshop/chop treatments.

    • Yup, MFOYA your picture says it all “stupid conspiracies”. MFOYA = Trash.

    • You know something, I just read what hc wrote and honest to God, it brought tears to my eyes.

      Taylor:

      What do you say now that she is gone, others are gone too. Your continued silence has silenced this beautiful young lady and many of the others her age who really really loved you and your music. They weren’t the “thudders” they weren’t the kool-aid drinkers. These were your young fans, the fans you could bring soul and blues too and expose them to a world of fabulous music.

      The death of an illusion.

      No, you don’t owe your fans or anyone anything. But without them, you don’t have a career.

    • SAL, people make mistakes. I’m sure if he could take it back he would. If I was him I wouldn’t know what the fuck to do either. He made this choice months ago, probably out of fear. He probably has regretted it every day since.

    • Voice of Reason
      January 28, 2008 at 8:04 pm

      Good point nyclove. He unfortuntely got himself painted in a corner.

    • Maybe Nyclove, but was it worth it!

    • Voice of Reason
      January 28, 2008 at 8:06 pm

      Bhammer - I sure would love to see one of your posts right now.

    • I don’t think he thinks it was worth it. I believe he wanted out MANY times but had to deal with that stupid conniving Caroliar who was trying to use him as much as she could. His face said it all. I don’t think Taylor is a bad guy. I don’t think MFOYA thinks Taylor is a bad guy. It’s just he made a terrible mistake and took it WAY too far!

    • I agree with you nyclove, and I still want to stay of fan of his. If you reread his now-sham of an autobiography, you can almost understand why he still needs to do stuff like this, the wounded Man/Child wanting everyone’s approval is almost endearing. Ok, enough psycho-babble. At the very least, all this drama has certainly been entertaining enough.

      Taylor, please, just shut up and sing.

    • “No, you don’t owe your fans or anyone anything. But without them, you don’t have a career.”
      Exactly.

      I read so often how Mr. Hicks has ‘brought them back to music’ or somehow saved their souls, and if true, good for them, glad something worked.

      Reality check, without fans an artist won’t get far. Without fans there is no career. Artists who are not truthful and Real with their fans find failure. It is the way it is.

    • Thank God! Taylor, you can release the giraffe back into the wild and get on with your life now. And who gives a flying fuck about those TMS bitches and what they say anyway?

    • Two little tiny questions:

      MFOYA - so are you going to stop now? apparently your job is done.

      Sunny - so are you going to distance yourself and your “blog” from Taylor now?

    • “Taylor, please, just shut up and sing.”

      Do you love it? I love it.

      You know, I’d love to stay a fan of Taylor’s, but I just don’t know if I can. Part of being a Taylor fan is the experience - Cellcerts, chatting on boards, going to Taylor events - And for me, that experience has pretty much faded away.

      If he has a kickass sophomore CD, I might come back. But if you were to ask me right now if I was a Taylor Hicks fan, my honest-to-God answer would be “I don’t know.”

    • Yeah, and MFOYA, whoever you may be outside this Internet world, I’d just like to thank you. For keeping your head up and sticking to your word when people said you were crazy/insane/a liar/a pissed-off Daughtry fan/a Taylor hater. Honestly, I don’t know if I could have put up with all the bullshit you had to go though.

      It was an important message to get out there and you were the only one to do it. (Well, you and your team, how many ever people is on it I thank each and every one of you.) The message would have never gotten though any other way. And although I realize this isn’t the most important thing in the world, it is to some, and really matters to those of us it affects.

    • Single_Bullet_Theory
      January 28, 2008 at 11:20 pm

      It’s very interesting to examine the whole Kool-Aid-drinking bunch out there. Cult members bank on getting an enhanced feeling of self-worth through a group association. In this case, it’s nothing short of automatonic behavior and totally blind devotion. PEOPLE: Take your flippin’ blinders off and face what’s real! Otherwise, I see a remake of “The Body Snatchers” in the offing.

    • What part of “these are two different women” is so hard to understand?

    • (edited by MFOYA - cliffs notes)

      I don’t care so much I can’t stop posting about it. I really don’t care though. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah oh and blah I don’t care. Really. You won’t see me posting here anymore, no siree. I know I’ve said that 135 times already but this time I really, really, mean it. Because this time I really really don’t care. I just don’t. I could care less. Can you tell?

    • It’s really interesting to watch the koolaids lose their minds. The fanatics and their loser leader are blogging about it. Seems they are too freakin’ stupid to understand that Radar claimed the NYC photo wasn’t photo shopped (the ONLY picture we thought might have been chopped and which MF cleared up months ago). Radar is now unsure about Taylor’s “motivation” for this scam. Radar isn’t trying to figure out if it’s two different women anymore. Radar already KNOWS it’s two women - that’s why they FEATURED it under “scandal” and wrote what the expert had said CONCLUSIVELY. Lois Gibson KNOWS it’s two women. She’s the pro. We KNOW it’s two women. What none of us know is WHY he did this.

      The levels of denial are sad and pathetic. It really shows me over and over what kind of fools this man has as fans and why he has no respect for them in the first place. I will never stop laughing. If that Fanatic site had any dignity they’d shut that shit down and HIDE.

    • Ohhh Jat doesn’t care now. Now that it’s true Jat doesn’t care….Jat you are as psycho as Jeannie. You’ve spent your days and nights badmouthing people here calling them liars and jealous and whatever else you can come up with.Now it seems they were nothing even close to that. Just people that saw the truth for what it was. Oh yeah, but now you don’t care. Sad sad sad you are. Eat your computer honey. We’re waiting……. Victory IS sweet!!!!!!

    • My goodness. Jat just SHUT UP. You have already made such a fool of yourself. Just shut up please.

    • It seems Radar thought we were internet crazies until they realized……oh shit……..we were right. I would think it was crazy too……..but i know know better. Crazy like a fox is what someone wrote on Radar!! lol!

    • I’m not sure which is more pathetic the little “celebration” that ya’ll are having because you think you’ve ruined someone or hickschick’s whining and announcement that she’s been wronged and just doesn’t know if she can call herself a fan anymore! Please…suck it up hickschick!! My 9 year old whines less than that after taking a futsol ball to the face! Atleast she gets up and gets back in the game. If you don’t want to be a fan anymore than bye bye, just do it but shut up about it!
      Oh and now you’re going to start insulting Wes, a guy that not one of you has ever met?

    • Calm down Tired. Who is insulting Wes? Wes lied for Taylor. (or maybe he just doesn’t know) Is that an insult?

    • you know, there actually ARE some people that don’t care. Many of my friends don’t care and they sure as hell don’t go around posting on every one of these sites yelping about how they don’t care. Because unlike others, they really don’t.

    • Did someone say “internet crazy??????” Hell yeah!! I’d rather be internet crazy then INTERNET STUPID!! Bwahahahahahaha…..sooo stupid that I’m fawning over fake photos, fake sightings, advising Taylor on his fake relationship with his fake girlfriend, planning fake weddings and fake engagements and wooing over that fake sparkle in his eye. I’m happy!!!!! I’m happy!! My god!!! Talk about feeling like ROYAL INTERNET ASSHOLES for buying this fake story. Why do you think there’s so much resistance!?? They don’t want to accept they are SUCKERS. Call me internet crazy any goddamn day of the week! Bottom line is I ain’t stupid. Never was, never will be!

    • Looks like just another publicist doing her/his job: Covering the butts of the rich and famous!

      MFOYA, good job!!

      A+ for your tenacity!!

    • Oh and Prinpris I just must address you……………….point fingers right here baby!! You were always a little slow….if I’m feeling bored I might pull out some of those GG posts and post them here!!! Y’all would like that… Prinprin Jat and whatever the hell her name insulted Caroliar Lieders every chance she got. I have PM’s from her saying “I don’t care if he has a girlfriend. Just not HER.” Seems you lost your mind? Alzheimers maybe? But then again this is the same woman that claimed Taylor’s fishing video trips were like good for his career….and also the same woman whose only joy in life is Taylor Hicks (kinda sad)…..everything else is pretty boring. She’s afraid we might be taking her only joy away…don’t worry Prin. He’ll survive. You’ll still get your fuzzy cellcerts MINUS the fake girlfriend sightings….

    • “don’t worry Prin. He’ll survive. You’ll still get your fuzzy cellcerts MINUS the fake girlfriend sightings….”

      Okay now that is the funniest shit EVER!! LOL!!!!!!!

    • Tired:

      You are truly a pathetic, tired person. You sound almost like Tedneck with your drivel and insults. But insulting a young lady who has done nothing to you, wow, your 9 year old must be proud of her mommy (or daddy).

      And who brought Wes into this, no one even mentioned him.

      Taylor has lost lots of fans, the fact that hc is one of them is not your concern, but it should be Taylor’s. After all the young fans are the ones he needs right, to get away from the kool-aid crazy puffy paint sp’ers. Hmmmmm, guess that’s you. Can’t stand that the sham was real and they are 2 different women. Cant’ stand that the illusion that was Taylor was crushed for some.

      You insult a teenager so you can get insults thrown at you. Come on, or you can’t handle adults?

    • yeah it is funny and its funny that Radar Mag took it upon themselves to find out the TRUTH and they did with PROOF. So? This ain’t no new news. If people weren’t prepared for this they are just flat out stupid. A real relationship of a minor celeb doesn’t cause this much controversy……Taylor lied because he’s a celebrity and felt he needed to and he’s getting outted because he’s a celebrity too….that’s just how it is. So he lied about his fake girlfriend…..fine. But what’s with the psychopathic delusional denials? Who do these people think they’re protecting by acting like they are so dense they can’t even tie their own shoes? Where’s the respect in acting like a freaking dumbshit? Why don’t they just accept it and shut their pie holes? Treat it like it’s no big deal so it WON’T be a big deal. Instead of creating weirdo excuses and probably making it even harder on the man.

      Oh and the TMS admins….bwaahaha all those ass-kissing wannabes know that wasn’t Caroliar on the beach….do Tappigface and the rest of the admins who reign over a cheesy Taylor Hicks fan site seriously think Taylor’s going to let them blow him now and invite them to BBQ in Bham because they acted like clueless idiots? Hmm think again. Keep writing your fanfic y’all and thudding on the hard floor because that’s as far as you’re going to get….and not to mention…..stupid ain’t cute.

    • This highly-regarded and amazing police sketch artist….has she ever been wrong? even once?

      MFOYA says: sorry sweets. No. She’s an expert and said this was a “no brainer.” And she didn’t even take the height into consideration. Accept it. You’ve been fooled.

    • Ahh Turnitup. It’s good to have you back!

    • hicksfan7, my ‘Little Buddy’, asked, “Sunny - so are you going to distance yourself and your “blog” from Taylor now?”

      Here’s the thing, that blog was created to track the Taylor Hicks story, this a part of the story. To address your question, “…distance myself from Taylor” I’ll address that issue on my blogspot, not take up MFOYA’s space.

      turnitup, I know you must feel better getting to address a few ‘issues’ that previously you haven’t ;) .

      It’s been a wild ride.

    • Wow, just wow. Mazel tov Mfoya.

    • “I’m not sure which is more pathetic the little “celebration” that ya’ll are having because you think you’ve ruined someone or hickschick’s whining and announcement that she’s been wronged and just doesn’t know if she can call herself a fan anymore! Please…suck it up hickschick!! My 9 year old whines less than that after taking a futsol ball to the face! Atleast she gets up and gets back in the game. If you don’t want to be a fan anymore than bye bye, just do it but shut up about it!”

      Did I ever whine and say that I was wronged? Uh, no. All I said was is that the Taylor “experience has pretty much faded away” for me. That’s not whining, that’s truth-telling, which is something that you other people that call yourselves “fans” need to learn how to do.

      Read the damn post before you go off running your mouth when you don’t know squat.

    • I’m listening to his music all day today to remind me why I became a fan in the first place. I don’t know why anyone would think that it was necessary for such a sham, but apparently they did. I read a article in Radar and wondered now that this whole idea is out there don’t you think it needs to be addressed or do you think everyone is hoping it will just fade away. I hope he just gets his talent going and works on his next wonderful cd free of any ties.

    • Funny that none of this ends up on his “MySpace” comments. Why hasn’t it ever come up there? Do they edit the incoming comments? Just curious. I am not a “MySpace” subscriber, just lurk to read the drivel…but I would have thought there would be some mention of this somewhere there, as I assume that commentors from other sites which slam this site would comment there, too. I personally liked him on AI but feel he is a fraud; I won’t be purchasing anything else done by him. Sad, but true. I feel duped.

    • “I personally liked him on AI but feel he is a fraud; I won’t be purchasing anything else done by him. Sad, but true. I feel duped.”

      So, are you happy, MFOYA? Maybe I’m confused, but I thought a fan would want to bring in MORE fans. So, since I’m a Springsteen fan, I guess I should start a blog for the express purpose of making him look bad, so that he LOSES fans. OK, I got it now.

      And all the idiots cheering you on are fans too? Geez, I’ve been doing this fan thing all wrong.

    • Bob, maybe Mr. Hicks should have thought about what would happen when he went about fooling all his fans for 8 months. Maybe his friends should have thought about that too when they came on this site lying to all his fans and calling people names for seeing the truth. Many already knew this was happening and they still listened to his music. If Di doesn’t want to support him that is her choice. But don’t shoot the messenger because you don’t know what else to do with yourself. Taylor is a fraud, it doesn’t mean he will always remain one. He can make this right if he wants to. The only person that made Taylor look bad is TAYLOR. Period!

    • Amen to that, hustler. For me, it has absolutely never been about making Taylor look bad. I will always be a fan of his music. I want him to now step up and say to the idiot fans “Look people, I’m a normal person and not some goofball you can hold on a pedestal or whatever…” not to put words in his mouth or anything, but we need to hear it, we need closure to this, and if people can’t manage to get past this as fans, then ok, so be it. Taylor is a big boy, maybe if we had all acted like grownups here in Hicksville, none of this none of this would have happened.

    • I have been reading this site from the beginning. I saw Caroline myself and when I saw those beach photos again I realized that was not her. Why should that be top secret? I have read hundreds of posts on the internet of people calling mfoya a liar, a hate blog, a jealous person, a psycho, someone who is making up stories about their Idol. Over and over again.The truth is mfoya WAS NONE of those things. They were NEVER lying. EVER! Mfoya was being honest and was getting attacked for it! So many lies have been spread into this fan base because of Taylor and his irresponsibility and arrogance. People have been fighting for months about this issue and he did nothing to stop that.What is positive and inspirational about that?????It is dark and negative. If it was not for Taylor’s poor choices no one would be fighting and feeling bad. People are people. Whether you are Taylor Hicks or MFOYA or me or you. There is nothing good about lying to people. Those lies were for US. That charade was for US. It is horrible to do even to strangers and there are no excuses to keep it going for all these months. none! Taylor made a fool of himself in my eyes. I don’t respect him more for being able to lie with a straight face. It doesn’t make him a less talented man, but yes it makes him a lesser man. In fact, it makes him a child.If you can’t see that Bob, maybe you need to reevaluate what being a fan is. Because it is NOT worship.Please worship God…not a man or musician.

    • Don’t you guys have any new material? When did I ever say that I worship Taylor? I’m just a guy who loves the music.

      What I’m responding to are all of the times MFOYA insisted he/she/it is a fan of Taylor’s. C’mon, let’s get real. Seriously. Stop insisting you have his best interests at heart. It’s ridiculous.

    • Dorothy Snarker
      January 29, 2008 at 4:45 pm

      Wonderful post, Confused. You bring up some very good points.

      When asked about the woman on the beach, all Taylor should have done is tell people that it’s a private matter, and that the woman is not a public figure and he respects her privacy too much. But nope, that did not happen. Instead, we got “treated” to this elaborate sham.

      I first came to MFOYA as a huge skeptic. I was convinced that it was Caroline on the beach. But hey, this site had an interesting premise and I liked all the posters so I stuck around.

      MFOYA had some very damning evidence, but I remained a fence sitter. The thought of sham just seemed to outrageous. Why put all the energy into covering something up, when one could just keep one’s mouth shut? But then I’d see differences in height or jaw lines or lips, and think, “Those are not the same person.” And of course, there were other things that just didn’t add up-Ted’s email, Ruffcorn’s press release, etc.

      Now Lois Gibson, a highly respected expert in her field, has come out to say that the Beachie and Caroline are two different women. However, I still wonder if Taylor and Caroline will refute this charge. I half expect Taylor to put a post on his MySpace page objecting all charges, or Caroline to come forth to say that MFOYA has completely libeled her and she’s suing. It’s going to be an interesting few days to see how Ms. Gibson’s damning expertise plays out in Kool-aid land.

    • Just because fans post on this blog doesn’t mean its a fansite. I love a good conspiracy especially when it’s as lame as pointless as this one! I support Taylors music I don’t support his lies. What’s so hard to understand about that?In the perfect world he’ll make great music and stop bullshitting. Is that too much to ask? It would make the fan experience much more fun.

    • How can Taylor be writing/collaborating on new material with this business swirling around him? Either he just doesn’t care and is ignoring it (which at this point I’d fine really hard to believe of him) or it’s just consuming most of his energy and he’s getting nothing done. Either way it’s a no-win situation.

    • sorry, find it

    • Doc, Taylor cared enough to concoct an elaborate scheme to make himself look good. Right now in light of Lois Gibsons damning conclusive 2 women statement, he’s not looking so good SO I can make a pretty intelligent guess of saying “I’m pretty damn sure he cares.” Even if it was all total nonsense (which it’s proven not to be) he would care. Wouldn’t you?

    • So, is Taylor going to issue a statement?

    • OK, talking to myself. I’m guessing not. I think he’s betting his southern grit and charm will see him through once more. That is just so wrong. We know he has nerves of steel, AI proved that, this isn’t a contest though. He needs to put it behind him so he can give us back the creativity, vitality, and musical direction we expect from him.

    • It seems your friend “Bob”, MFOYA is running back and forth between the Fanatics, stirring the pot. His most recent post read something to the effect,
      “True fans-the ones who enjoy his music, period- can read over there if they want to, but please remember to return to the real world and give the man your support by buying his music.

      I mean, that’s it, right? Isn’t that all we really want from him?

      WTF? Is this, “Hobnobbing Bob” one of the PR guys sent to mollify this, make it go away, bring the issue to a head, bring it all under control? His kitschy line reminding the True Fans to buy Hicks’ music - in this context that simply sounds fake and wrong. Worse, it sounds cheap and phony.

      What is this guy? ‘Hobnobbing Bob’ the Taylor Hicks’ product hawker? He’s posting here, then posting on Fanatics, in an obvious attempt at manipulation. His spiel, just look away now, run along and get your wallets out, just keep buying the merchandise… like some kind of freaking carny, or multi-level marketing salesman. Yeah, “just keep buying that music, it’s what we really want”. Such tripe.

      Of course, the Fanatics are eating that up - they’re just thrilled that this Bob guy is coming to their site. He’s gabbing about the state of fandom or lack thereof on this site, building those Fanatics up then reminding them to buy, buy, buy. That’s so full of shit. He’s as transparent as saran wrap.

    • Nice catch, Sunny! Yeah, the cleanup crew has been deployed. Too little, too late.

      BTW, AmyH and the biddies over at the Booger have their panties in a wad because Tay was interviewed by one of Howard Stern’s peeps. Subjects touched on? Smelly genitals and how he’d like to be a guest on Stern’s show. The handwringing over this is EXACTLY why Taylor felt he had to lie about the identity of the Beach woman. Maybe his comments on Stern are his declaration of independence from the the granny patrol wing of the fanbase.

    • Alright MFOYA,it appears you were right all along. That’s not CL. Unbelievable that Tay would pull this off or even try to. It’s just so STUPID.Even more unbelievable that Radar got the most reknown expert in the world to analyze the photos. lol. Tay must be feeling pretty shitty.I know that you have gotten a lot of heat for what you are doing here.no one wanted you to be right. But you are and I think THAT angers people more than anything.I’m glad I shut up and never said anything,just watched and I must says it’s been pretty wild.

    • Well, since my first post didn’t make it through moderation, I’ll try again.

      She’s a lie:
      “But insulting a young lady who has done nothing to you, wow, your 9 year old must be proud of her mommy (or daddy). ” Now that is FUNNY!! Have you met Caroline? Have you met Taylor? Have either of them done anything to you? I didn’t think so Ms. Hypocrite!

      Oh and don’t you worry about how proud my daughter is of me. You have no idea!!

    • MFOYA says: Ethel, I don’t try to make anyone look foolish. It just happens.

      OK then, I’m glad we cleared that up. You’re NOT a fan. And please, I never said this was a fansite. You’re just trying to make me look foolish.

      Sunny, yes, I’ve gone back and forth between this site and the caroline lyders fan club. I stated as much in my comments over there. It was because I didn’t expect my posts to appear here, so I copied them over there. Just covering my bases. I’m not interested in playing games.

      I addressed what was on my mind. I got my answer. No further questions.

    • Well, being the doubting Thomas that I am, I went to Lois Gibson’s website and read up on her. Then I saw an email address for her, and thought “Why not?” I sent her an message asking if she had been contacted for the article, and received the following confirmation from her:

      From: gibxxx@comcast.net Add Mobile Alert
      To: xxxx
      Subject: Re: Verifying source
      Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:02:37 +0000

      Hello xxxx,
      Yes I was contacted for that article. Tell
      me why you ask and what is your opinion?
      Lois Gibson

      Pretty cool, huh?

    • Ok MFOYA, no cat fighting. I’ll try to ignore the whining (I have a low whining tolerance level) and I’ll let the accusation that I’m a ….what was it???? “Kool-aid crazy puffy paint sp’er” slide! And, “I’ll stop running my mouth because I don’t know squat” but only because you and I have had a few intelligent conversations in the past even though we disagree on so many things.

    • Why won’t you post my quote you wanker!

    • Hey mofuda. My tourdates for Bon Jovi are up on my website. Why don’t you come see me, since we are such good friends, and maybe we can make up another story about The Bon Jovi and his fake girfriends. It will be just like old times. It is worth a good laugh. You know my website. Love ya, TC

    • Ted, you sober yet?

    • Ted, if it was 1991 I’d be like hella impressed!

    • Good ol’ Ted, having himself a partay. Go Boy.

    • Hey turnitup. Someone must of forgot to tell the Bon Jovinator it is not 1991 anymore. I guess he forgot since he still sells out ever show, arenas and stadiums. Hey, him and Taylor have something in common,they both give love a bad name. LOL.

    • There is nothing to underestimate when you are dealing with people who are fakes. Much like yourself. If you were a person of any truth, like myself, you wouldn’t have to hide behind some lame ass name.

    • NO IDENTITY, ZERO CREDIBILITY!!!!!!

    • What are you afraid of? Do you still find yourself in the front row of every Taylor show? Do you still try to get into every meet and greet? Do you fear that you will have that taken away from you. Sad isn’t it. MOCHODA, I could really give a rats ass who you are. One day you will realize how meaningless this whole thing is. Hell , if you are gonna pick a battle, do it against someone who is still famous! LOL

    • Even old Lois is wrong on this one. LOL Do you really think I care what Taylor thinks about this whole thing. I wish we would have come up with this supposed sham. I wish I could take credit for it. It would have actually been funny to do make up some kind of insane shit like this.

    • By the way,you can’t expose anything,when there is nothing to expose.

    • MOLLODA. I wish I had time in my life to make some crasy shit up like this.

    • Good night MOYODA! Have a thing called a job that I have to attend to.

    • Reveal it. Who Cares.

    • If Taylor made up some far fetched shit like that, it’s his own fault. All know is that I haven’t had anything to do with it. MOLIUIDa, I am the messanger!

    • Crazy. That’s what I am. I am going off the rails on a cazy MOYOADA train.LOL

    • “Hell , if you are gonna pick a battle, do it against someone who is still famous! LOL”

      Wow Ted…you are such a decent friend. I’m sure Taylor appreciates your comments.

      MFOYA….please drop whatever you have. No need to hold back now that this has all come out!

    • Don’t smoke crack and post on MFOYA. Rule #1.

      LMAO!

      Rule #2. Don’t repeatedly post “I don’t care!” on every site on the world wide web. Kinda defeats the message you are trying to convey.

      Hell , if you are gonna pick a battle, do it against someone who is still famous! LOL

      Rule #3. Don’t bite the hand that once fed you. (Being under the influence of controlled substances is not an excuse.)

      Rule #4. In defeat, be gracious:

      Gracious: “Now that a renowned forensic specialist has confirmed that Caroliar was not on the beach, I congratulate MFOYA for being tenacious and for being instrumental in revealing truth to the koolaid-drunk masses.”

      Ungracious: “You are all a bunch of fat, jellus haterz!! Taylor would never lie to anyone!! But if he did? Idon’tcareIdon’tcareIdon’tcareIdon’tcare!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Rule # 5. Don’t hate the messenger. Hate the message.

    • Hey Ted!

      Since I’ll be at the Bon Jovi concert in Vegas, do I get to meet the infamous ballicker finally? Please, please can I?

      I’ll be the one in the 2nd row on the aisle wearing a Mfoya kicks Ass shirt. Can’t wait! and I’m no frumpy sp’er either, might just take your breath away!

    • Dorothy Snarker
      January 30, 2008 at 3:07 pm

      I wonder if Radar would have hired Ms. Gibson to analzye the pictures if the Soul Patrollers wouldn’t have descended on their website like a bunch of insane locusts.

    • Well, I guess my comment the other day did not fan any flames which seems to be way to get a comment out of moderation. Heaven forbid someone put a reasonable face on all of this. I would say this is a stupid non issue for Taylor. What star anywhere would address any kind of issue as to who he was with when or where? It’s no one’s business and Taylor has really made very little comment as to his personal life so how could he be lying? But, that fact wouldn’t be pointed out on a site like this.

    • MFOYA….please drop whatever you have. No need to hold back now that this has all come out!

      Be careful what you wish for. Let’s not provoke MFOYA. Best to let this particular nugget of info remain underwraps.

    • MFOYA says: Reader, something is not right with you, that’s why I don’t post your comments. I feel I need to point that out. I don’t care if you think I’m lying because if I am lying, then Lois Gibson is lying, Radar is lying and the sources who tell me things are lying and so on. The reality is the only liar is Taylor and his friends who lie. Stop being his fan if it hurts you so badly. But use your brain, if you have one that is, and move on. I’ve come across a certain type of crazy that I didn’t know existed. If the Beach Girl and Taylor both come out and make statements, you nut bags still wouldn’t believe it, because YOU’RE NUTS. No reasoning with nuts. At this point, I can only laugh at you nuts.

      MFOYA I think you are lying. So if I don’t believe
      you, you won’t post my comment?

      You can’t say I’m rude because I called you a liar.
      If so then you calling Hicks a liar, which you did, would make you rude.

      So be a big enough person to post this entire
      message. Or are you still going to twist and turn
      everything people write that don’t agree with
      you?

      This should be a challenge for you.

    • Reader, I can’t even follow what you are saying.

    • Watch out, Reader just might write LOIS GIBSON=TRASH. hahaaha! Delusional. Poor, poor Taylor. What did he ever do to deserve such freaks as fans?

    • MFOYA=RADAR. Mfoya hacked into the Radar site and posted all that. MF hacked into Splash News and photoshopped their pictures to make it look like another woman. MF also hacked into Lois Gibson’s brain and forced her to say it was two different women. MF also hacked into Taylor’s brain and stole it from him when he was coming up with this scheme. It’s all mfoyas fault!!

    • “I’ll be the one in the 2nd row on the aisle wearing a Mfoya kicks Ass shirt. Can’t wait! and I’m no frumpy sp’er either, might just take your breath away!”

      DOUBT IT! Rumor has it Ted only talks to people with class.

      Sorry MFOYA, I know I said I wouldn’t cat fight, but I couldn’t help myself! And you never said any of those things I was referring to in my last post. That was she’s a lie, otherwise known as the non-frumpy sp’er who’s going to take Ted’s breath away! LOL!!!!!

      As far as what there is to disagree on at this point, maybe we can discuss that in another intelligent late night conversation, right now I have to make dinner, vacumn and do the laundry! But I’ll admit, I look forward to it!

    • Man, I’m up for the t-shirt - I want one. Hell, if Hicks does Stern he should wear the shirt. Would not be a bad thing - like alterna-humor…

      nyclove - that ’s funny.

      MFOYA, reader is an insane on-line freak o’ nature all to themselves. Maybe it’s chill. LOL j/k

    • “I’ll be the one in the 2nd row on the aisle wearing a Mfoya kicks Ass shirt.”

      I will take an XL, please. :D

      SAL and I were talking about going to the SP convention in May and dressing up as Taylor wearing “I Heart MFOYA!” tees.

      Seriously, if anyone wants to do that, I’m looking for someone that’s a MFOYA’er to go with.

    • Hey MFOYA do the shirt. We will buy it…

      I want to now go to the SP convention and wear the MFOYA t proudly.

      LOL

    • Tshirt for CL:

      Marine went to Hawaii and alls I got was this louzy T-Shirt!

      haa ha ha ha ahaaaa

    • Tired: Really enough already!

      And ya hc and anyone else, the shirts are in the works! We have 3 to choose from. Teddy Boy, which one you want to wear?

      Mfoya Kicks Ass

      Marine went to Hawaii and all I got was this lousy shirt!

      “Maui vacation 2,000; Papparazi pic 1,000; Fake gf to cover for a vacation with a ho $$$$$$$$$$$$, ” the kool aid drinkers realizing we were right…..PRICELESS!

    • “Marine went to Hawaii and all I got was this lousy shirt!”

      That could be on the back or something. That one might take people to figure out, but “I love MF!” is pretty damn straightforward.

    • MFOYA says: Kathy I will address this in a blog post.

      You know this stuff has been going on so long that I am totally confused as to what is what. I’ve heard pictures were doctored to make them appear to be CJ and then pictures were examined and were not doctored but are two completely different women, who by the way just happen to look enough alike to be sisters? So, now I’m totally confused. Taylor lied and said he was with CJ when it was someone else?
      And the reason is the real girl was a skank???? Doesn’t make sense. Since when would fans bale on an artist for sleeping around? Heck, they’d be thrilled and willing to be next in line. LOL. I guess I’m just missing something here?? None of it makes any sense.

    • I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. OMG. OMG. OMG. You have got to see this gem of a post I just read on TMS.. This comes from blondebabe/celebrityblondebabe/madmoiselle. Her and her sister Jeannie are probably the most psychotic people in Tay’s fan base and are literally going crazy over the fact that Taylor lied to them (hahahaahha) and that’s not CL!! hahahhahah. And they call the Fanatics site home. They’re also jats new BFF. HAHAHAAH.

      Read this!!!


      Post: #389
      RE: Everyone’s Mean to Taylor: The Thread of Angst, Conspiracy, and Woe

      Just thought I would post an article that I was sent a long time ago when Taylor first started dating Caroline Lyders. I looked at the photos and just could not believe that they were INDEED Caroline Lyders. She has many many looks…she can change it up…I think that is a good thing. I know the issues of her on the beach have been a real thorn in the sides of many of us…because we know that if Taylor said it was her…it WAS her. The comparisons of the beach photos and Caroline’s work photos and the New York photos with Taylor have been thru scrutiny…and they looked so much alike…but the lady has a much wider range of looks…Thought I would show those of you that are not so sure …a few snapshots of CL that show how different she can look how she is really quite beautiful, blonde or not…check this out.P.S……She is wearing a pink sweater…you would probably not know it was her without my telling you. Zoom away…make sure to close your mouth…

      http://playinthecity.blogs.com/milwaukee_outdoors_erins_/2005/10/celebrity_shoot.html#comments
      Yesterday 11:30 PM
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      ******

      Meanwhile, that’s not even Caroline Lyders, that’s another fucking woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!! These are the kinds of nutjobs out there!! HAHAHAHAAH!!!!

    • How about TEAM MFOYA? lol.

    • Dorothy Snarker
      January 31, 2008 at 2:39 pm

      Thanks for the link, NYC. You don’t have to be Lois Gibson to know that’s not Caroline Lyders. Stevie Wonder could tell that’s not Caroline Lyders.

    • OMG, what morons. I bet Taylor wishes Caroliar looked that good. Hell, I bet Caroliar wishes she looked that good. That’s one of the funniest things I’ve seen posted here in a long, long time. HAHAHAHA!!!!!

    • ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • I kind of like this photo of Caroline better!! She looks so different there! It’s amazing the kinds of different looks she can have!

    • What? lol I am speechless. Blondebabe, what a fool!

    • Dorothy Snarker
      January 31, 2008 at 5:41 pm

      Hustler, put a warning up first. I nearly choked on my apple!

    • Re: Post #389; That can’t be serious?!?!?!?!

    • Unfortunately Di it’s real:

      http://taylormadesoul.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=11009&page=39

      Maybe she’ll delete her post out of embarrassment… LOLOL!!

    • Single_Bullet_Theory
      January 31, 2008 at 6:38 pm

      Blonde Woman is a celebrity nutcase. This is further evidence that she and her sidekicks have set aside more time to humiliate themselves in a public forum.

    • That is certifiably insane. Hahaha!

      I think “Team MFOYA” shirts are a great idea. I would proudly wear one at a Taylor function.

    • It went all the way to post #432 before someone told her she was wrong and that the picture was not CL and looked nothing like her - I just wanted to see how long it could go on. Truly unbelievable.

    • Single_Bullet_Theory
      January 31, 2008 at 10:47 pm

      “Bob” says: So, you’re all Hicks haters?

      Thanks for stopping by, “Bob”. I may not be speaking for everyone here, and I hope I’m not stepping on anyone’s toes, but NO, I am not a Hicks hater. I stumbled across this site late last year, did my research, and came to the conclusion that something was rotten in Denmark (Hawaii???). Why would I hate Taylor Hicks? I don’t even know the guy. What I do know is that things weren’t as they appeared, and I feel a certain sense of satisfaction knowing the truth. Yes, that’s what it is…the truth. Perhaps a certain group of individuals on the other side of this issue should have opened their eyes and examined things with an open and impartial mind like I (and others here) did. But I’m afraid that’s too late and they’ve made complete and utter fools of themselves. So now they use the “I don’t care”, “It doesn’t matter”, “Who cares?” excuses to support their obsessive, unrelenting, fanatic, and completely unrealistic view of their “idol”. Their illusion, their fantasy, their daydream, whatever they want to call it, is over. It’s time to let it go and join the real world.

    • FanFool/hicksfan7
      January 31, 2008 at 10:54 pm

      MFOYA says: I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with [the truth]. ~JB

      MFOYA - many many people hate you.

    • Couldn’t agree with you more S_B_T - I too found this site by accident back in September. I do not hate Taylor - in fact I am a fan. Just felt like something did not add up. I generally weigh the odds against the means - look a both sides. I feel he lied and helped create this coverup. Only he knows exactly why. It has just been a facinating journey on how the internet can be used to perpetuate something like this-fake sightings, planted information on blogs, staged photos. It is time now for all of his fans to move on and accept him for the person he is not what they want him to be. Maybe not forget that he lied, but forgive him for his faults. Hopefully he will learn from his mistakes and get on with his life and the real love of his life, his music.

    • I know many fan who check this site daily and none of them post and have just been taking in all the information..at first when this site appeared many of us were shocked and just thought wow these people really hate CL..thats messed up…let the man be. Then once people started reading they would take in the info and debate it among themselves in a private setting..yeh things didn’t add up about the whole Tay CL story. Teds email, the woman in the bikini didn’t seem like CL upon first glance, Tay’s behavior, it just felt weird, but then the big WHY would always pop up. This blog never lost steam and it was never shut down..these were two big ??? too that didn’t add up. Then Radar comes out and finally Lois Gibson. I’ve done some reading on her, so have a lot of people. She is the best there is. There is no one better. If she says that’s not CL, it is not. In my heart I know she is right even though I didn’t want her to be and when I allowed myself, I can see very clearly that’s not CL. Yeh, I think CL is pretty disingenous to fool people like this and now the disdain for her makes a lot of sense. A lot of fans know this now..we don’t know why MFOYA decided to uncover this, but I am glad they did because I don’t like being fooled. I see Taylor with someone much more special and real and hope he finds a great gal that makes HIM happy, not a fake one for show that he had to make us happy. I don’t care if Taylor lied or if the woman was trashy..I love his music. He doesn’t need to play these games. I wish he knew that.He can just be himself that is A-OK by me.